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My Bobby Flay Throwdown Print
A Greek chef pits her traditional moussaka against star chef Bobby Flay's updated version. Opa!
By Diane Kochilas   |   Wednesday, 02 February 2011   |   19:00

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Ouch. I lost the moussaka contest! I was thrown down on the "Throwdown!" And by what? Horror of horrors, a honky-tonk rendition of the Greek national dish! Sacrilege! I knew I should have made an offering to Saint Euphrosynos, patron saint of cooks, but jet lag prevented me from doing so. That, and the all-consuming undertaking of making six hotel pans of the stuff for a recent episode of "Throwdown! With Bobby Flay." I'm sure every Greek in America will want to skewer me. Sorry guys!

I am still muttering, bewildered and dazed: My moussaka, made with a perfumed meat sauce of the primest beef, baked (not fried) eggplants, zucchini for lightness and a three-cheese Bechamel beat out by a moussaka with ginger, lemon, honey and chili peppers? What's wrong with those judges? C'mon!!! (And, in case no one told the folks at the Food Network, two judges do not quite a contest make.) But still, Zorba is turning in his grave, I know it. How could this have happened? I, self-proclaimed guru of Greek cooking, proselytizer of the healthiest food on Earth, author of 18 books on the subject. How could I dis moussaka, and in the process unwittingly find myself the protagonist in a 21st century Greek tragedy or, more accurately, a comedy of errors. Or a bit of both. Here is how it happened.

A mysterious 'Food Network' contest

It all started last April with a Post-it half-forgotten on the back wall at Pylos, the New York City restaurant where I am consulting chef. I was at the restaurant, fresh from Greece, to work on the spring and summer menu. On the Post-it was a name, a phone number and two cryptic words: Food Network. That was enough to make me drop my knives and start to imagine myself gesticulating and imparting some memorable punch line, show after hoped-for show. Would it be something like "Zeus!"? Or, "Opa!"? Would I, could I, imagine myself dressed in a toga making avgolemono, or smashing the plates that I served my Greek creations on, all in the name of Food Network fame? Certainly those two words were enough for me to leave the stove and call the young woman, herein referred to as J.D., whose name was on the note.

OMG. They were interested in me! But first, to my surprise, they had to taste our moussaka. Moussaka? I winced. Why moussaka? I HATE MOUSSAKA!! But she was polite and even made an earnest effort to pronounce it correctly (moos-a-KA), which softened me. Despite all the great Greek dishes I've spent my professional life searching for, re-creating and writing about, all the amazingly healthy food that is Greek, the Food Network wanted moussaka. They wanted the poster boy of Greek food, the cliché, right up there with gyros, baklava and retsina. How narrow-minded! How typical! How boring! I tried to talk J.D. out of it. I tried to charm her into convincing the powers that be to at least go for our signature artichoke moussaka instead. It's so much more original. It's vegetarian!, I coaxed. Healthy!! But no, they were decided, and so, perhaps, was my fate. Visions of grandeur danced in my head. If it's moussaka they want, it's moussaka they will get.

Of course, I didn't know quite who "they" were. I certainly didn't know that the yellow Post-it would be the start of my odyssey in the cloak-and-dagger ways of "Throwdown!," one of the most popular shows on the Food Network, with a viewing audience larger than the population of Greece. I wasn't privy to the minor detail of Mr. Flay's presence in my life until the moment he appeared in the flesh next to me, cameras rolling, on our second and last day of the shoot. In the seven months between Post-it and filming, I was fed such a meager diet of information scraps by people I only knew through e-mail, that at one point I started to get seriously paranoid. I mean, seriously. More on that in a minute.

Diane-Kochilas-moussakaMy moussaka passed muster. Of course it would. It's the best moussaka in New York City! Next, it was my turn to be tested, so to speak. J.D. and a colleague shot a quick casting tape at the restaurant and in my home kitchen. A buddy in the TV business gave me a crash course in media training: "Smile all the time. Be lively. Be yourself. Get a good hair and makeup job. Look at the camera and pretend you're talking to a friend." Then my Brooklyn-born, Greek mother's voice, God bless her soul, entered my head. "Wear a girdle. You're not a spring chicken anymore, kid." I am blessedly thick-skinned, if a bit thicker in waist than I was once, and I let the thought go. (Actually, I just wanted to be comfortable. And I did think, hey, Nigella's plump. I am a Greek mother. Who'd trust me if I were a waif?)

Then, J.D. disappeared from my life, as suddenly as she had appeared. In the short interim of our communication, she was like a spook, maintaining a code of secrecy that was so impenetrable it put my suspicious Greek mind on edge. Soon after her first e-mails, she announced that she was moving to another job and that I should not contact her again. There was something vaguely threatening in the tone. But she explained that "they" would contact me, in August.

Great. I'd be spending my Greek island vacation waiting for a phone call. I practiced Zen-like detachment, numbed my lips to silence with a little nightly ouzo and relaxed. If it is meant to happen, it will happen. Erase it from your mind. This was my mantra, as it always is.

The moussaka makes the cut

The e-mail came, around Aug. 20, and the news was good. "They" had chosen me. What exactly I had been chosen for eluded me no matter how hard I tried to find out. And try I did, with journalistic doggedness that bordered on harassment, as J.D. later told me when I e-mailed to thank her for her part in a truly memorable (and fun) experience. I also did what any sane author would do: I stuck my shamelessly aggressive agent on them, his prying became a glitch in their system they did not appreciate. J.D.'s replacement, R.S., was my new contact, the Great Wall between me and whatever awaited me. I had already signed various things, mainly release forms and permissions, without knowing what I was getting myself into.  R.S., who used words like "peachy," said I would be part of a peachy special called "It's Greek to Me." Lovely. Another original. No mention of Bobby Flay. No mention of "Throwdown!." (I was informed after the show was filmed that had I surmised it then, had I asked, I would have been immediately banned.)

But the clandestine atmosphere that clouded our every e-mail was sending my mind into red alert. What set me off at first was the budget, or, rather, the decidedly penurious nature of it as it related to moi. They weren't picking up my makeup ($500 a day in New York City for a makeup artist, BTW); nor my plane ticket (thank goodness for Sky Miles); nor very much of anything besides a minimum stipend for food. Gee, thanks. My agent got a wall of silence and some nervous equivocating when he called his contacts at the network. Other things raised the alarm bell, too. Peachy, for one. He used his personal e-mail account to communicate with me. If he worked for the Food Network, I thought, why isn't he using his work email to contact me? The production company R.S. worked for was called Blue Plate, which did not exist in the New York State Better Business Bureau records. Another red flag. An Internet search turned up several things, one a California address and another an 800 phone number, which I duly called only to get a recorded message, something to the effect of "Hey big guy, wanna have fun tonight?" A porn line!!!

I went ballistic and R.S. became the butt of my vitriol. "All your questions and the calls to my superiors are not making me look good," he said, poker-faced veneer ever-so-slightly perturbed. But he must be used to these things. He had a ready answer. "We're all freelancers. That's how it works in television. So you can't find us on any official list anywhere." For some reason I believed him, or chose to, anyway, those visions of "Opa!" were growing as the shoot days approached.

On the set. Still no Flay.

The shoot fell on the worst two days of the year: the Monday and Tuesday before Thanksgiving. I arrived from Greece on Friday, spent the weekend making moussaka, lots of it, and all the parts, too, since they needed trays and components for beauty shots, swap outs and service. Monday was the set kitchen day and the venue was a loft near the Holland Tunnel. The director, a Greek-American like me, marched me through the process of making my least favorite, most time-consuming dish with gale force domination. My assistants were new to this and slow (but kind); one was not a cook; the other spoke no English. It's hard to steal staff from the small kitchen at Pylos, so I had to make due. (Bobby I should add, has an army of pros at his side.) Then I was interviewed. Then we went to the Union Square Market. Then we headed to Pylos, home of that famous moussaka, where friends and fans and good customers had all been invited to participate in a testimonial to the ethereal nature of our rendition of the Greek national dish. We all drank a little wine, and had a good deal of fun. So far, no sign of Mr. Flay. So far, not an inkling of his imminent arrival in my life. Well, almost no inkling.

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Peachy insisted I drag as many friends as possible away from their pre-Thanksgiving rush to be with me the following day. Several friends figured out that the show I was doing might just be "Throwdown!," and that "Greek to Me" was a fictitious decoy. So, of course, I asked, which incited near hysterical denial and more than a crack of panic in R.S. "Whatever makes you think that?" he repeated about three times in as many seconds. Got it, I thought. Aha. I was VERY relaxed. And why wouldn't I be? To me, this was all about having as much fun as possible and, of course, doing my best. I even got the director's goat with that question. I almost believed her categorical "NO," and almost cowered to her scowling orders. "I told you. It's 'Greek to Me.' Can we now please get off Greek time and keep to the schedule?"

For the showdown they chose a venue with apparent Greek Revival motifs, Gotham Hall, a former bank at Herald Square in Manhattan. I had to be there at a specific time, not a minute earlier because they would not let me in. (Nice way to treat the next Food Network star!) When I arrived, the audience, comprised of a social group and dance troupe from a Greek church in New Jersey as well as an adoring fan club of my closest childhood friends, was already lining up outside the door. The place was buzzing. A camera followed me, like a shadow, everywhere. I had to announce the event to them all: "Welcome to the Food Network, Everybody. I'm Diane Kochilas and this is 'It's Greek to Me.' " Yeah, sure. I just concentrated on getting my mis en place set up, my hotel pans to the kitchen, and everything else I would need to "perform" moussaka in order. I had to answer random questions from the audience about everything from the history of Greek food to the nature of Greek barbecue.

Then, I started to cook. When I looked up, I saw the jaw of my oldest friend drop. The stir in the audience turned into a tsunami of applause. And there he was, Bobby Flay, in the flesh, smiling right at me. I hugged him, Greek-style, kissing both cheeks. This was "Throwdown!," after all. And the contest began.

I was concentrating, smiling, entertaining the audience, and, really having fun, all the while inhaling the ether of a kind of hyper-reality. There was no way Bobby, with his boy-next-door charm and his firm abs (I squeezed them when I hugged him) was going to usurp the moussaka title.

But wait, what title were they talking about? This was not quite a contest between equals, not a showdown to see who makes the best true Greek moussaka. It was a competition between tradition (my version) and novelty (Bobby's rendition). We both came to the set with our individual recipes tested.

The judges were an odd couple. One was an academic and author of a Greek cookbook; the other a restaurateur who looked like he had indulged in one too many rich meals. He liked the sweet moussaka. The academic, an anthropologist who knows Greece well, appeared to prefer the traditional version. They murmured it out between them.

Then, the moment of judgment arrived. Number one! Mr. Flay was obviously very surprised. Stunned, I'd say. And, so, of course was I. He tapped his hand to his heart and looked at me in wonder, slightly shaking his head in disbelief. An OMG moment for us both.

Is there a moral to this story? Not really. A second helping? Probably not, unless, of course, "they" would take up the challenge of another "Throwdown!"

Spanakopita, anyone? 


Diane Kochilasthe food columnist and restaurant critic for Greece's largest newspaper, Ta Nea, is also a culinary teacher, restaurant consultant and award-winning cookbook author.

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Bobby Flay and Diane Kochilas
Diane Kochilas' moussaka contender
Flay and Kochilas on the set of "Throwdown! With Bobby Flay."


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Dear Jackie,
Thank you for your lovely comments. The moussaka really is very delicious! To answer you questions: I used canned tomatoes; as for the cheeses, I probably said that one can substitute the kefalotyri with parmesan shld the Greek cheese be hard to come by. As for the feta, you are the second person to mention this to me. Did I add a little feta--it would have been just a little because it doesn't melt smoothly and it is salt, after all--and unwittingly omit it from my written recipe, the same one that the FN has in hand? I may have in the anxiety of those few days of shooting. If you do add feta, don't add more than a quarter cup. I would recommend searching out Mt. Vikos, which sells a particularly creamy feta.

I hope that resolves whatever may have been unclear.

Thanks again and enjoy,
Diane
a guest , February 18, 2011
The food and wine of Greece By Diane Kochilas
The food and wine of Greece By Diane Kochilas, is a 1993 cookbook available on Google reader. Pg 40 has the Bechamel pg 164 has the Moussaka

Based on what I read there I would making the following changes
3 or 4 cups milk in the bechamel
+ 1 cup Parmesan cheese either sprinkled on top or added to the bechamel
and add 3 tblsp Tomato Paste to the Meat Sauce
a guest , February 18, 2011
Question
Hi Diane - Let me just say, I have never seen a more beautiful moussaka as the one you created on this episode with Bobby Flay. My mouth was absolutely watering by the end of the show. I would love to make this recipe for my family and I have searched ALL over trying to find this episode to re-watch as I thought there were a couple of ingredients that didn't jive with the written version of the recipe. I am unable to find the episode in my upcoming tv listings or for viewing online, so I'm hoping and praying you can clarify a couple of things for me. (Please, oh PLEASE!)

First, for the meat sauce: the written recipe reads '2 cups chopped, plum tomatoes' - are these fresh tomatoes or canned? In the episode, I could have sworn I remembered them looking like canned tomatoes.

Second: for the bechamel: the written recipe reads '½ cup fresh Greek anthotyro (or ricotta), drained
½ cup grated kefalotyri cheese'. In the episode, I thought I remembered you adding ricotta, feta and parmesan.

I would really like to make it the way I saw you do it on Throwdown. If you don't mind, may you please clarify these two ingredients for me?

Thank you so much for your time and for sharing your genius! Have a really great day!

Jackie
a guest , February 18, 2011
Diane is the Master of moussaka!
You are truly the Greek Master Chef in my eyes...I have your cookbooks, and cherish all of your delicious recipes. The TV judging means nothing..it's all about ratings and the shock factor, and it always will be, sadly.
a guest , February 16, 2011
Moussaka by Diane Kochilas
Is the milk amount correct for the Bechamel? 7 cups?...(a lot more than any other recipes)
Thank you for clarifying.
a guest , February 14, 2011
Moussaka!!
After I watched this episode I went looking online for "Best Moussaka recipe." I am glad I found yours, thank you so much for posting it! Next time I am in NY I am def stopping by your restaurant!
a guest , February 13, 2011
three cheese béchamel?
The article says three cheese béchamel but I only see two cheeses in the recipe. Did I miss something?
a guest , February 13, 2011
moussaka
So nice of you to put the recipe up. Thank you . I cannot wait to try it.
a guest , February 13, 2011
Xeni! lol
I love Bobby but really??? It's tough enough deciding which greek region has the best dish, let alone a rendition from a Xeni! lol My YiaYia left me the gift of food and cooking and I can usually read through I recipe and figure out which one would be my pick...Your ingredients made my mouth water...I called my Mother!!!! lol It was tradional slapped with gourmet!! Mr. Indulger was your problem!!!! I agree three or more judges is a much, even "Iron Chef" has three judges!!! I will definitely be stopping by to try a piece, even though it's not my favorite dish either!! lol It was a pleasure watching you just the same...seems you're a winner already! Yasou! Maria ..marystale.blogspot.com
a guest , February 12, 2011
mousakka
Sorry Diane, But you were robbed! That challenge should have been yours!
a guest , February 12, 2011
Looked great!
I just watched the throwdown, and so like so many I went looking for recipe. So excited that I see it here posted, so I can try it! Thank You Diane
a guest , February 12, 2011
That famous Moussaka! Here's the recipe. Enjoy! Thanks everyone for your great comments!!!
Pylos’ Moussaka
Diane Kochilas

For 10 – 12 servings

Meat Sauce:
3-4 tbs. olive oil
3 large red onions, finely chopped
1 pound button mushrooms, trimmed and coarsely chopped
3 garlic cloves, finely chopped
2 lbs. ground beef or combination of ground beef and lamb
2 cups chopped, plum tomatoes
1 cinnamon stick
½ tsp. ground allspice
Pinch of ground cloves
3 bay leaves
1 cup dry white wine
Salt and pepper to taste

Bechamel:
6 tbs. unsalted butter
6 tbsp. flour
7 cups milk
Salt and pinch of white pepper
Pinch of nutmeg
2 egg yolks
½ cup fresh Greek anthotyro (or ricotta), drained
½ cup grated kefalotyri cheese


Vegetables:
Olive oil for frying
2 -3 large eggplants, peeled and cut lengthwise into one-eighth inch slices
2 large zucchini, trimmed and sliced on the bias into large ovals, one-eighth inch thick
3 large potatoes, peeled and cut into 1/8 inch slices, lengthwise, kept in a bowl of water to keep from oxidizing
1 – ½ cups canned chopped tomatoes, drained


Prepare moussaka:
Prepare meat sauce: Heat olive oil in a large, wide pot and sauté onions until soft. Add the mushrooms and garlic and sauté until the mushrooms are wilted, about 5 minutes. Add the meat, reduce heat, and stir until meat takes on some color, about 8 minutes. Add the tomatoes, spices, wine, salt, and pepper. Raise heat slightly, bring sauce to a boil, then reduce heat to low, cover and simmer for about 1 ½ - 2 hours, until the sauce is thick. Sauce may be prepared 1 – 2 days ahead of time and refrigerated. You may need to add a little water to the sauce in the beginning, so that there is enough liquid to bring to a boil.
Prepare béchamel: Heat butter in large saucepan over medium heat. When it melts and is bubbly, add the flour. Whisk until the flour begins to turn light golden. Be careful not to color too much. Pour in the milk and whisk until thick. This might take around 15 to 20 minutes. Season with salt, pepper and nutmeg. Remove from heat and vigorously whisk the yolks into the hot béchamel. Add the cheeses and whisk until smooth. Set aside, covered with a kitchen towel to prevent a skin from forming on the top of the sauce. May be made several hours ahead, reheated and thinned as needed.
Vegetables: Preheat the oven to 350° F. Place the eggplants in one layer on an oiled sheet pan. Brush the top with olive oil. . It is best to use sheet pans with a perforated rack, to let steam circulate around the vegetables as they bake. Bake until soft, about 12 minutes. Remove. Repeat with remaining eggplants slices until all are cooked to tender but al dente. They should not fall apart.
In a large, heavy, nonstick skillet, heat 2 tablespoons of olive oil and sauté the zucchini slices, turning once. Do this in batches if necessary and replenish the oil as needed. Remove and blot dry on paper towels.
Remove the potatoes from the water and blot dry with paper towels. Heat 3 to 4 tablespoons olive oil in a large non-stick skillet and sauté the potatoes over medium heat for a few minutes, just to soften but not to color. You will need to do this in batches. Set aside on platters lined with paper towels. Preheat oven to 350F.
Assemble the moussaka: Spread about 3 tablespoons of olive oil on the bottom of a large, deep baking pan (we use hotel pans at the restaurant). Spoon the crushed tomatoes on the bottom of the pan. Place the potato slices in a single layer over the tomatoes. Season with salt and pepper. Place a layer of eggplant on top and season lightly with salt and pepper,
Mix 6 tablespoons of the béchamel into the meat sauce.
Spread about a third of the meat sauce over the eggplant slices. Spread a layer of zucchini, seasoned with salt and pepper, then a layer of meat sauce. Finish with a layer of eggplant slices, salt and pepper, and the last of the meat sauce, spread evenly on top. Pour the béchamel over the top, spreading it evenly with a spatula. If the béchamel is cold from having been made in advance and refrigerated, warm it slightly and loosen it up with a little additional milk, if necessary. Bake the moussaka uncovered for about 45 to 55 minutes, or until the béchamel is set and lightly golden. Remove, cool, and cut into serving pieces.






a guest , February 05, 2011
Yours looked amazing and I can't believe it didn't win!
I was shocked! Not only did your recipe sound much more appealing, it looked much better than Bobby's. As the other person posted above, we would all love to try your recipe. Will you be posting it?
a guest , February 05, 2011
WHERE IS YOUR RECIPE?
Hi Diane, I saw the episode and like you was shocked at the outcome. I have spent the past 30 minutes online trying to find your recipe and I can't find it anywhere. Are you not going to have it published? I would love to try it.
a guest , February 04, 2011
Been watching for a while
Watched your Throwdown tonight. The triumph of innovation over tradition was surprising. I would love to try a recipe of your version of moussaka rather than Mr. Flay's baroque version of a classic.
a guest , February 03, 2011
You are still my favorite!
A wonderful cook with a personality to match. No one can top your food, Diane.
a guest , February 03, 2011

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